Typical Leftist Snivvel-blather.
by predicto
01/22/2008, 1:51 AM
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An entire concoction known as the "Big Lie" based on PC assumptions about history and motives. Of course, like all Big Lie leftist stuff, there is no real need to be accurate about facts or honest in evaluating them so long as the thrust of the verbiage is to destroy God, Country or God's country and people. Christians and Jews, the most evil things to ever inhabit the earth, and the stupidest and most easily led.
Scoot'r-d:
The enitre reason Israel even exists is because the Bible got politicized.
=== You assume this because you are a psycho-babbling fool of limited intellect and even lesser, Marxist character, but you can't help it as this was your destiny, and you are one of God's creations serving your base purpose and doomed to be expended and tossed on the burning shit pile at Gehenna after the last days when He's through with you. Israel exists because God brought it back into existence just like He promised in His book some years back, like 4,000 years or so, perhaps. Blessed be the God of War. If you ever knew anything about how it happened you'd see the miracle of it. ===
Somehow it became a good idea to give back Isaraeli lands some millennia after it last existed as a country. It can only be because of biblical beliefs that they theologically deserved their ancient lands back.
=== Sure they did. You act as if Israel by other names was devoid of Jews. Never was it ever cleared of Jews. It was to Jewish communities that the first Zionists went. The Ottoman Empire was GLAD to sell the barren and useless lands of old Israel to anyone, including Jews. There was no one on it. It was a long, barren stretch from Acre to Damascus. It was typical Moslem ground. Abandonned, misused, spent, not managed or upgraded, left to decay. Jews moved in in great numbers and because of their cooperation with the Brits got a homeland consisting of lands pretty much barren or already largely owned by zionists. The Ottoman empire which had legal title to Israel since Byzantium fell to it, itself a split from the Romans who dispersed it, a troublesome province, barren, mean and poor even by their time and standards sold the title legal to the land to the Jews..
After the Jews prospered it, local Mohammedans (impoverished, dirty, stupid little beggars)began flocking to it like ravenous lice to a sleek puppy, much like the vermin latinos latch onto America and suck it dry for all its worth. The Jews made the big mistake of letting in too many Moslems figuring prosperity and education would make them think in a civilized fashion (Not remembering that their Jewish world view is shaped by Yahweh, Life itself, so bound to prosper and revere truth and the rule of law, and theirs the Mohammedans, at best, a poor vapor of superstitions that had produced nothing but despair and death wherever on the earth its spiritual pestilence held sway) but before the last British Ship left Haifa, the Mohamms rose up and slaughtered millions of innocent school-girls and grandmothers while the Armies of Four Moslem nations, equipped by the US, the Brits and Russia as modern armies, navies and air-forces jumped a rag-tag band of Jewish bums with garage-made submachine guns and wearing cooking pots on their heads for helmets. First thing the Jews did is took away the Moslem airforce and killed Moslems with it, then they stole their tanks and over ran their artillery, and within a short week, they had all the foreign equipment and were making hay until the west stepped in and stopped them or they just mighta solved our Mohamm problem of this day, Jehovah bles them! Unfortunately, the Globalists Socialist Elites didn't have that in mind as they kinda planned on the Mohamms playing the third hand in the game of global exploitable chaos. But even they can't stop Israel. Yeshua has spoken. ===
Amerindians owned all of America less than 700 years ago.
=== Halfwit. You act as though they were a united and analogous group living in wonderful harmony in paradise America according to perfect democracy rules laid down by the Algonquins. Right. Spare me. The savages were incredibly ruthless even with their own kind, and God brought them low for their sins just like He does the rest of the world. This time He used the space for a new Jerusalem kinda place. His Christians. Unfortunately, like the Jews, we refused to exterminate the aborigines and began worshipping their gods, screwing their women... Polluting what we were and losing our faithfulness to the One, Ture, Almighty and Jealous God of the bible. Now our asses are deaf, dumb and blinded as it gets kicked by a bunch of ragheads and Mexican peons swarming into the fort to cut our throats in our beds. ==
They had owned and occupied this land for thousands of years.
== They hunted and fished it, and cultivated patches of it and moved on because their population wouldn't increase due to infant mortality. Persia's population when American and British Oil Companies and Missionaries went there were less than 3 million and all of them in squalor. By the time of the Shaw, 30 million. A little Jesus and some discipline will go a long way towards a decent infant mortality rate. Indians had neither the Jesus nor the discipline. We needed the land for higher purposes, and so we took it. It is our weakness that we left any aborigines alive to develop bitterness in future generations against future generations who had nothing to do with the deed. Today's experience for me has proven that we fudged when we didn't rid ourselves of latins after the Alamo, blacks after Appomattox and Indians after Chief Joseph and Geronimo. Now, we have Judge Bolt, Jesse Jacksin, and Hugo Chavez types all over our asses. ===
They had their religions that were just as sacred and time honored as any.
=== Just defective in the face of a superior world view with its resultant discipline and technology and guidance of a Living God. Who Knows All Things.===
Compared to Israel that existed for less than 150 years
=== Ahem. You forget the time of the judges, and Israel proper existed after the Judah split. Israel proper went out of business with the Assyrian captivity (400years). Judah fell to Babylon but was allowed to pay as a tributary. Forget not that Israel the man lived in the area before the 400 years of Egyptian captivity, too. Israel, then, is 800 years old before it was lost but reclaimed by the Jews early enough so that those with Jewish ancestry lived north of Judah. ===
almost 2000 years ago Amerindians have a much greater rights to have their properties handed back to them now.
=== Not really. It isn't where one's ancestors slept that counts, besides, the ancestor's kids are still able to wander the land freely in great peace and comfort. When was the last time you saw a skinny Indian, I mean, one not on Methamphetamine? They have the land better now than they ever had it if they'd just get with the program and stop strugglling with their fascination with firewater and gambling.
What counts is what God promises, and He promised to regather Israel at the end of the Church Age and bring the Great Tribulation upon the whole earth for their sake to turn back a remnant of Israel to worshipping Him. It will be a time of distress so severe that it would kill all mankind if God didn't miraculaously intervene. No distress has ever been experienced nor will it ever be experienced, except save Christ's on the cross perhaps when His Father laid all the sins of the world upon Him. Those who trouble Israel will be very troubled by God. He promises. Since God has been right at every turn in everything the King James Bible says since before Pharoah, I think I might pay a little heed to being conducive to His Plans rather than attempting to thwart Him.
Stop trying to compare those stinking Pals with Amerinds. Amerinds at least had pretty good character, especially the ones in the old days - nowadays you can't tell an Indian from a snake, really, by charactrer, or rather booze sucking leech would be a better term for your average Amerind I've known). A Palestinian is such an odious fellow that their former country, Jordan won't take them, neither will Egypt or Syria, or any other Moslem nation on earth. What's that tell you?
"Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom...." ===
Anyone ready to pack up and move?
== No, but I am quite ready to shoot Indians given a legal or perfect opportunity/reason. It is in my blood. My Dad's family name came out of Jamestown in 1634. Thank God most of them went south. Whew.
My mom's people came here after the Franco Prussian War so they really didn't get much chance to shoot any having gone only as far west as Indianna by the time my granparents were born. Hadn't been any Indians in Indianna since a few decades after Fallen Timbers era, if memory serves. Now, that Blackhawk, there was an Injun. Or was that Pontiac... Better get out my ancient Indian book.
Dd

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